None of Thresh's tooltips mention that he can pick up souls with his lantern
锤石的技能描述从来就没提到过他可以用灯笼捡起灵魂
The souls dropped by enemies through Thresh's passive can be picked up by him throwing his lantern with W at them. This is not mentioned in his tooltips.
Not the description on his passive, not his W, nothing. This seems like a mechanic that should at least be mentioned somewhere. In fact, isn't this the exact reason Riot introduced "Hold Shift to read more" ability descriptions? To clarify smaller mechanics?
因为锤石被动而掉落的灵魂可以用自己的W技能扔出去的灯笼把他们收集起来。然而这并没再次出现在游戏任何的技能说明里。被动里没有,W里也没有,哪里都没有。感觉至少这些机制至少应该在某些地方被提及。实际上,这是不是拳头推出“按Shift查看技能详情”的原因呢,以便于陈述清楚一些小的机制?
[-]ojay1998
Same with Draven's W. It is not stated in the tooltip that you're ghosted (can move through units) for the whole duration. This allows you to pick axes easily that are through units.
Edit: I only found it out first when I used it to trade in lane once, I was like "but I didn't have Phantom Dancer yet?" until I tried it again for a second time, it was basically an epiphany moment
德莱文的W技能实际上也是这样的一种情况。技能表示并不会告诉你在加速的整个周期里你持续处于幽灵状态(无视体积碰撞),这使得你能够轻易穿过单位捡起斧子。
编辑:这源于我的一次偶然发现,那是我在对线期和对面换血,我心想:“我还没出幻影之舞呢?”然后我又试了一次,在那一刻,我顿悟了。
[-]Public_Pansy
I have been playing this fucking game for 10 years and never knew this.
老子玩这B游戏十年了,我竟然不知道还有这事?
[-]OrionGaming
Rofl I main draven (500k) and forgot about this.
爷五百万熟练度的德莱文都老忘记有这事
[-]Vintoxicated
Also katarina w. Makes you ghosted aswell, there's a couple of these.
卡特的W也会让你无视碰撞体积,还有一些其他的例子。
[-]MattJobbers
Wait, is that why the enemy Thresh throws his lantern at me randomly sometimes? I thought that was BM
等一下,所以这就是为什么敌方锤石有时候冲我扔灯笼的原因?我以为他在嘲讽我。
[-]EmpressIsa
Can be soul collecting and can be that he is trying to bm/bait you.
有很大的可能是捡灵魂,也有一定的可能是单纯的嘲讽你,或者勾引你一波
[-]Wonskai
Lmao how would that bait someone, make him flash or something
不懂就问,这样怎样会勾引到对面呢?
[-]xCharSx
Lantern has a long cooldown. Throwing it somewhere just for souls means there no lantern for a little skirmish so people are more aggressive
灯笼的冷却很长。只为了捡灵魂而把灯笼用了意味着在一场小规模战斗中锤石是没有灯笼的,所以对面会变得比较激进一些。
[-]willem3636
Throwing lanterns to stop enemies from recalling is the best. They get afraid and move back haha
冲对面回城的人扔灯笼然后打断他们的回城感觉最棒了,他们会感到害怕,然后后退哈哈哈哈哈
[-]HGvlbvrtsvn
You can also block movement with thresh lantern - for example you can't walk between the turret and the wall botlane if there's a thresh lantern in the way. If I'm standing towards Tri and pressuring a dive, I will toss the lantern at that spot inbetween turret and wall if they're near it and they will face plant the lantern and panic flash or be at risk of being easily hooked.
Its situational, but it definitely has its uses
你也能够最终靠锤石的灯笼来卡一些位置,比如在下路防御塔和地图边缘的那个地方,只要你放个锤石的灯笼,对面就过不去。如果说我站在下路三角草的地方准备越塔的话,我会直接把灯笼扔在塔和我这边的墙的中间,对面看到这个灯笼之后会被卡一下位置,要么慌张闪现,要么轻易被勾到。这些都是视情况而定的,但是确实挺有效的。
[-]Omnilatent
I feel like a quarter of the in-game mechanics are missing from tooltips anyway
Was playing Nunu in ARAM yesterday and the tooltip said absolutely nothing about maximum duration of the snowball roll (medium important) or how they get slow immunity while having the snowball (absolutely essential!)
我觉得有大概四分之一的游戏机制并没有在技能描述上体现出来。昨天大乱斗我在玩努努,技能里并没有提及任何关于滚雪球的最大时长(次重要的)或者在推雪球的时候会获得减速免疫(这是最重要的!!)
Honestly: Do it. Give us the option between "simple" and "full" tooltip so that the casual player can read the simple one while the more invested can actually read what the shit their champ does.
说真的,给我们一个“易懂”和“复杂”的技能描述吧。这样一来休闲玩家能够读简单的,然后高端一点的玩家也可以阅读完整的技能机制。
[-]LezBeHonestHere_
Well, they were supposed to, I think ever since Aatrox rework they have added "shift to view whole description" but for 99% of champ's abilities it adds nothing useful when you do it.
他们应该这样。我记得自从剑魔的重做之后,他们增加了“按Shift查看完整描述”,但是99%的英雄技能描述并不会因为这个改动而变得有用。
[-]supelgwoud
new champions like akali, aatrox and whatever have an option to show a different tool tip if you press shift or if you enable the "always show extended tooltips" option. its really useless though because it basically adds nothing. for example: akali Q states in her normal tool tip that her q does 125% damage to minions at rank 5, while the extended tool tip just converts that 125% into the actual damage of it instead
and i think tahm kench had it added to his R where if you hold shift it adds a quote which doesnt add anything to it at all at the bottom of the description
像阿卡丽和剑魔这样的新英雄,你按Shift总能出来一个不同的技能描述,也能够最终靠允许“总是展示额外描述”选项来查看。然而这基本上没用,因为根本就没加啥东西。举个例子:阿卡丽的Q技能的普通描述会说在技能达到五级的时候会对小兵造成125%的伤害,然而额外的技能描述只不过把这125%给转化成了实际伤害。我记得塔姆的R技能如果你选择了额外技能描述的话,会增加一句塔姆说过的话。
[-]Devourer_of_HP
On the other side of the spectrum, we have senna's passive which hides the fact that she deals reduced crit damage untill you press shift.
然而事情具有两面性嗷,赛娜的被动技能描述并不会告诉你她的暴击伤害会减少,直到你按了Shift。
[-]servirepatriam
You can pick up souls with Senna's Q. I don't recall it being mentioned
你可以用赛娜的Q捡起灵魂,我不记得技能里对这个有任何的描述。
[-]Devourer_of_HP
Her Q acts as an AA for everything
Plants,wards, structures,people,souls.
她的Q算作普通攻击。植物,眼,建筑物,人,当然还有灵魂。
[-]gabu87
Most importantly, Glacial Augment. Aery is...ok but the slow is incredibly valuable and consistent.
Autos are guaranteed, the slow ensures that your follow up Q will always land.
In the reverse, your random fishing Q catching an enemy, will slow them and allow you to walk up to auto.
There's too much value in her getting the 1-2 punch both in damage and soul collected. It's already worth it over the damage/shield of Aery or any other dps keystones if having glacial secured you an extra proc every few trades.
Glacial only gets better in mid-late game team fight, especially when your range gets to 650+. One tag and now they're in real danger of you hitting an easy W.
最重要的是,可以触发冰川增幅。艾黎就...那样吧,但是这个减速实在是价值连城且始终如一。因为普通攻击是一定命中的,所以带来的减速使得接下来的技能基本能够命中。然而这个顺序在赛娜这里却反了过来,你随机的一发Q达到了敌人,这会让他们减速,然后你走上去接了一发平A。这为她的组合拳带来了伤害和收集灵魂上很大的收益。这些收益完全比艾黎带来的伤害/护盾和其他输出天赋要高的多,几次换血下来优势就出来了。
冰川增幅甚至在游戏中后期更加厉害,尤其是当你的攻击距离达到650以上的时候。一个Q直接导致对面会轻易的被你的W击中。
[-]Frantek1
Tahm Kench doesn't even describe how it works with allied champions anymore.
塔姆现在的技能描述甚至不会告诉你能够和友军互动。
[-]Camilleionaire
Camille's Q tooltip doesn't mention she gets additional auto attack range, either.
卡蜜尔的Q的技能描述也不会告诉你她会获得额外的攻击距离
[-]Kedash000
Holy fucking shit I knew I wasn't crazy
卧槽,我就知道我没疯
[-]sirtock
Renekton w gives him 50 extra range
鳄鱼的W会给他额外的50攻击距离
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